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And burning a CD or DVD in Linux? Are you kidding? This is almost impossible if you don't have the burning software installed by an expert before you use the computer!
Someone wrote:
"CD/DVD burning: GNOME + Nautilus + burn:///"
Huh? What the heck does that mean? What's GNOME? What's Nautilus? I can only assume that they are both programs in Linux...so taking that further with the above statement, then burn:/// is another program...where can I find that one?
Anyone ever try and play an ASF file on Linux? Unless you're a guru and know exactly how to manually edit a CONF file, it's impossible! Yeah, I ran the ubuntu library thingy and looked at all the applications there...and even installed a few, but none of them played an asf file.
And how do I take a disk image of my system...and no, I don't want to drop down to a command line and run some archaic "dd" command to do it...I want to see an icon, click on it and do a complete backup, user space *AND* system space backed up completly...I still haven't found something to do that in Linux...
So yeah...everybody here on this list reads this person's problems and we all roll our eyes and say under our breath what a dummy that person is...but we forget...we do this stuff every day...we know what we are doing...we have the patience to spend dozens of hours tracking down a single command variance to get that application running just right...
But most of the people out there aren't us...they are users...and as users, they just want to get the job done...They don't want to modify a screwdriver so it can hammer in a nail...they just want to get the job done..and we forget this
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I taught her like I teach everyone, as if the new system comes from a designer label fashion house or sports car maker. Obviously different from the MS supermarket system.
And obviously I treat them like a complete newbie with a new wardrobe or sports buggy. They can be the smart one and I the dumb (but sometimes clever) one and they can tell me how to do the basic stuff on the new system, while I show them how to dress up their desktop to kill, or spin their wheels by relinking their software names.
And I fix any problems immediately, saying thank goodness it’s easy to fix and it’s not the other one. And of course I never install on any hardware I haven’t checked as thoroughly as a PC builder would and I find and install software that the user likes using. And I install wine if they are a windows user and pop in a few bits of freeware or programs they are using I can get to run. And finally I set up their keyboard shortcuts for them.
They think I’m great and Linux ain’t bad as well
But the thing is that she loves Mandriva.
The way it look and works, it\’s user friendly, it doesn\’t get infected or freezes up.
About the problems with CD burning. On KDE, K3B start whenever a new CD-R is inserted... Not hard to figure out... Maybe the problem in the user interface wasn\’t exactly the INTERFACE...
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My parents XP laptop is locked down tight, so tight, that when they moved to broadband, it wouldn’t work. They phoned tech support, who told them to re-install, so they phoned me, and I told them to re-enable two services and all was right with the world again.
When next I went home, to do the obligatory 5 hour update, I found it took me 15 minutes. I ran every check I could think of, it was all still locked down, and everything was up to date. I’d finished configuring this laptop in a car on the way to the airport.
Locking down XP cuts right down on tech support and is a very good idea.
2. Rather than just straight out choose the distro for her, the boyfriend should have let her take part in the decision-making process. When people make their own decisions, they tend to be more satisfied with the outcome.
3. She didn’t get what she asked for. It seems she asked for "Ubuntu" but got "Kubuntu" instead.
4. There’s a lot of choice with Linux. Perhaps she should try GNOME or Xfce or any of a number of other desktop environments.
5. CD/DVD burning: GNOME + Nautilus + burn:///
6. Maybe she wants to run some other programs that don’t work in linux? Is WINE installed? If her computer won’t run the programs she needs or wants, then it’s useless to her. Of course she would want linux back.
If you want to stick with KDE though, I would suggest something like Mepis or PCLinuxOS that just steps user friendliness up a notch.
It’s a story from another user that I’ve published because it made me smile.
>DP - ive heard good things about PCLinux05, maybe I’ll look into it anyway.
Let her run Windows, if she chooses. But make sure you count and note down how many times it goes down, gets infected with something or starts acting funny. :)
BTW...Did you set up a restricted user account for her when you install Windows? Maybe try Sandboxie as an additional layer?
On the other hand, did you carefully guide her through the Linux basics and such? Or did you just throw her into the deep end? (Which could explain her rejection of Linux).
Getting someone onto Linux is no easy task. Carefully guiding them the basics and how to do everyday things is the challenge. The challenge of patience and explaining things clearly. (I know, I’ve converted many people!)
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