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by poor on Wednesday 24th of October 2007 at 20:11

I installed 7.10 but when I type any address in Firefox it doesn’t open. If I type the IP address of a site, it works fine. I had 7.04 and everything was working fine. Can anyone help me on this?

by sTj on Monday 22nd of October 2007 at 04:32

I’ve been using Ubuntu 7.04 for about 8 months. I just upgraded to 7.10 and have no system sound. Otherwise I like it.

by Kevin on Saturday 20th of October 2007 at 20:13

Fedora is slow...especially in gnome. Scientific-linux is much faster, and maybe even more secure. Scientific RULES!! I like the linux concept, many distros. In that way we get competition, and some distros include the best features of of the many, even though they may risk losing their identity, thus we got os’es that can compete with microsoft.

by Karl on Sunday 14th of October 2007 at 07:20

7.10 is the first release I can live with... and Vista no longer lives in my house. It’s that good.

Wifi isn’t the problem it once was. It’s going on leaps and bounds - but it’s not fixed yet. What I would say is drivers are produced by companies that like to keep their secrets - what works on Windows is because a company has spent a huge amount of time, money and effort to make it so. What works on Linux, 9 out of 10, is because individuals have spent spare time and effort to get it to work.

Many wireless devices not recognised previously now work - I know this from experience. For love nor money I couldn’t get my laptop to connect to my home network, even though it could see it. Trust me - chance are someone, somewhere, is working on it.

by Kouros on Saturday 13th of October 2007 at 10:50

In regards to fast-user switching, Ubuntu has had this feature for a while, however what is new in Gutsy is that there is a panel applet for it that allows you to select a user directly, rather than selecting Quit > Switch User and then typing in the name of the user and their password (you still have to enter the password, but the first three steps have been condensed into one). The applet also makes it easier to find.

by Evan on Monday 8th of October 2007 at 07:49

Fast user Switching is not a new feature,I’m using it in feisty.

by ural on Friday 5th of October 2007 at 03:19

The switching feature.... I remember using it in kubuntu 6.10, and I’m using it it kubuntu 7.04, so if the author did not notice it before, it is his fault. At least should have made some research to check if it was present in previous ubuntu releases or on other distros before.

by reyfer on Wednesday 3rd of October 2007 at 07:48

I used Ekiga a lot when it was still Gnomemeeting. The H323 part in conjunction with OpenPhone was OK.

For SIP videoconferencing/normal phone I switched to Linphone - which installs smoothly on Ubuntu with just a couple of clicks :-) (Version 1.7.1 is OK)

It has all the features Ekiga has and some more (such as better video codecs then h261)

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by Ekiga VoIP on Tuesday 2nd of October 2007 at 10:04

Someone commented about wireless issues? What chipset are you using? I have 3 different laptops using 3 different chipsets and I have yet to have a problem with my wireless configuration. Actually, what drew me to Ubuntu in the first place was how well the wireless configuration works. I’ve tried multiple distributions and none compared to Ubuntu as far as wireless connectivity goes.

by Chad on Tuesday 2nd of October 2007 at 03:39

Just think how much better the Linux experience would be if there weren’t so many different distros running off in different directions. Every time someone announces a new Linux distro, an executive in Redmond probably gets a bonus check... it really is that counter-productive for the Linux cause.

Btw, I use Ubuntu 7.04 on my Dell Inspiron laptop... run Windows based games on WINE, have been able to play all audio and video files (including H.264) Overall system stability has been excellent and to-date all updates have worked without issue (sure can’t say that about Windows at my office)

Complaints? Sure. Firefox seems to have a stability issue with Rhapsody’s music player on my laptop, but that’s not enough to convince me to re-install the Windoze that came with this laptop (thanks for nothing Dell!) My Mobility X1400 still doesn’t support Compiz to the best of my knowledge... just a driver issue... it’ll be resolved.

Anyone who is against DRM should be avoiding Windows Vista at all costs... it’s just one giant DRM installation meant to control the user. As a Vista user you are nothing but a potential thief in the eye’s of Microsoft... you can’t be trusted at all and instead of spending time writing useful code, they release update after update to disable unlicensed systems... all the while catching some innocent bystanders in the process. Anyone who is against their operating system having a remote kill switch integrated into it... yes, they too should avoid Vista.

Where all of the different distros end up helping Microsoft, I think Vista has partially helped offset this by being so blatantly horrible.

Ok, I’m done.

by Joe on Monday 1st of October 2007 at 18:53

I have tried to install Ubuntu 7.04 on my Lenovo Y300 notebook. The installation run smoothly except there is no sound output. Eventually I went back to XP. I just wonder if the problem is solved.

by Paul Lee on Monday 1st of October 2007 at 17:35

Not to many changes, wireless is still a problem.
As it was and is in the last two releases

by evert on Monday 1st of October 2007 at 15:04

they release a stable release every 6 months. that means that GNOME 2.22 comes out in 6 months. the odd numbers are development releases, leading to the release of a stable, even-numbered release. this means two major releases every year.

#1: doesn’t sound like a GNOME problem.

#3: sounds like a problem with the printer driver.

#4: when is the last time you used Ubuntu? sounds to me like you used an old version that didn’t have the ability to automatically find missing codecs and install them. (now a GNOME feature as well). plus for DVD you could install a package that allows you to play the encripted ones.

#5: that would be a problem with OpenOffice.org.

#6: apparently this isn’t a problem.

apparently, out of the 4 real problems you listed, 1 is a GNOME problem, 1 is an OpenOffice.org problem, 1 is a Canon problem, 1 I don’t know.
so the only problem you found with GNOME will be fixed in 6 months. no problems with Ubuntu. the other two are a problem with a third party app and lack of support for a comercial company. complain to the relevant people/organizations. about HD audio, it sounds to me like it’s probably a manufacturer that doesn’t support Linux, so why don’t you complain to them? maybe, if you complain, the situation would get better. maybe the drivers have been fixed/updated/created so your sound card and printer would now work properly.

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by Ealden Esca�an on Sunday 30th of September 2007 at 23:38

"since Gnome v2.21 is coming up in 6 months from now (i.e. March 2008), Gnome v2.22 should be coming up around this time next Year..."

LOL :-D Gnome 2.21 :-)

"that 1 big improvement comes up once a year - to fix all the above, would require another 5 years (or 2-3 in the best scenario)..."

ROTFL

Jam, you don’t even know what you are writing about - don’t do that...

by lmierzej on Sunday 30th of September 2007 at 12:36

From all the above, the most important improvement is the GUI for configuring your display (not messing with the Xorg.conf file any more...).
Another important feature, is embedded read & write onto NTFS-3G (Window’s NTFS) Partitions.
Other than that, I can’t seem to see any other "usefull" improvement...
I have quit Linux, since I could:

1. Not set up HD Audio on my newly bought Mobo
2. Not VoIP chat through Ekiga
3. Not Print in Color with my Canon Printer
4. Not being able to play/view certain types of audio/video files on my Ubuntu PC.
5. Not being able to use OOO Calc’s Data/Filters (not as good when compared to MS Excel’s Data/Filter capabilities)
6. Not Setup all my Ubuntu PCs to auto-update from a single Ubuntu Machine (I used to have to download updates multiple times for each of the networked pc’s)...

I have read that Gnome v2.22 has plans to fix the Ekiga VoIP client.
Based on the above statement, since Gnome v2.21 is coming up in 6 months from now (i.e. March 2008), Gnome v2.22 should be coming up around this time next Year...
Based on the following assumption - that 1 big improvement comes up once a year - to fix all the above, would require another 5 years (or 2-3 in the best scenario)...

Thanks,
jam

by Jam on Sunday 30th of September 2007 at 06:30

Fedora 7 is a very good release that I have been using as my main distro since the day it came out ! Before that I was using FC6, FC5, FC3... etc...

I also use Debian---

But don’t say Fedora is bad, it only shows your ignorance...

by Caraibes on Sunday 30th of September 2007 at 04:22

The Switching feature is old one. I used switching in ubuntu 6.10 also. Fedora 7 is a copy of Ubuntu not the other way! Fedora 7 has forgot to copy all features of ubuntu, fedora doesn’t work well! Looking forward to Ubuntu 7.10!

by Nikhil Sinha on Saturday 29th of September 2007 at 22:53

Actually, Fedora had fast user switching in Fedora 7. I wonder if Ubuntu got this from Fedora (like the new printing management app)...or maybe it was just a new gnome feature.

Regardless, this wasn’t an Ubuntu revelation.

by Tim on Saturday 29th of September 2007 at 19:52