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@ Erhan

So you want Windows without licence? "Free" Windows...
People seeking "to find" Windows in Linux, hum, I am not sure that be good news for UNIX systems...

"Are you working in MS?"

No, I use GNU/Linux (but not Pardus)

Blue Knight says:

"But then why do you use GNU/Linux? Again if you don’t want UNIX model, don’t use a UNIX system. Use the "real thing", i.e. Windows (And even Microsoft tried to improve the security in Vista)"

Why windows? Goverment pays to Microsoft 600.000 x (Windows License + office licence ...) dolars for every year for totally very simple tasks. Are you working in MS? Pardus is much more than enough and abs-bloody-lutely no need for any WINDOWS for govermantal offices. they will just use firefox.

By the way I made up the total number of computers :)..

Erhan says:

"Yes we can say it Window 98..The users mostly will be Windows 98 users.. So this is good for them..
By the way I am not developer .. I am just user"

And what? According to what you say, you thus want that Pardus behaves like Windows 98? Excuse me but why pervert a system which proved to be reliable to make it resemble another which was everything except protected?

But then why do you use GNU/Linux? Again if you don’t want UNIX model, don’t use a UNIX system. Use the "real thing", i.e. Windows (And even Microsoft tried to improve the security in Vista)

Yes we can say it Window 98..
It will be used in govermantal places.. The users mostly will be Windows 98 users.. So this is good for them..
By the way I am not developer .. I am just user..

Erhan says:

"If you dont like Pardus use another distro :).."

Yes. But one must also try to help, to explain why such or such thing is good or not. The newbies for example need explanations to understand a new system, “not to swallow anything” and to believe that it is normal and usual, to understand why it is good or not. ;-)

Pardus is otherwise a promising distro, it is a pity really that there is this severe breach in security. This security "relaxation" is outrageously evil, not even other user friendly initiatives, to my knowledge, have not try to "innovate" that much ( and I hope nobody will do it!)

So again: Pardus is a very promising distro but because of the UNIX security perverted, it can’t be recommended.

If you dont like Pardus use another distro :)..
We dont say Pardus linux.. We say Pardus..

@ glasiad

"That’s one of the reasons this distro is great for the 99% of home users who don’t live in a state of paranoia and just use their computers for work, communication, knowledge seeking, and entertainment."

Doesn’t the home user need protection? It is surely for that on Windows for example people use anti-viruses/spyware/maleware/firewall........ They don’t want to be protected, that is just for the fun...

"the Cold War is over! "

hey, no war here! But again If you don’t want UNIX model, security, state of mind etc, don’t use UNIX system.

Ismail "cartman" Donmez says:

"This security FUD bores me to hell. Asking passwords again and again won’t make anything secure."

Wow! And this guy is " the head of Pardus security team"? My God! An additional reason not to use Pardus!

KimTjik says:

"However I can’t understand his arguments about security: why on earth should every distro push some proclaimed UNIX culture about security down the throat of every single user of Linux? Why not give users the right to choose?"

If you don’t want UNIX security, don’t use a UNIX system and use Windows rather than seeking to pervert something which proved reliable.

"Pardus is aimed at the typical desktop user who doesn’t protect information of the dignity of national security on his/her system. He/she simply wants a smooth system whether at home, office or school. Pardus delivers a good user experience in this respect."

Again with this state of mind, use Windows, you are not at the good place. And even Microsoft tried to improve the security in Vista and to educate the home user not to use an administrative account, and there is a Linux project trying to do exactly the opposite. I’m sorry but can perform a wide range of administrative tasks (adding/removing packages, starting/stopping services or the firewall, etc.) without being ever asked for a password is a very bad habits to give even for a home users. For the sake of the user’s convenience, basic Linux principles were broken.

Stepelevich says:

"The developers, when questioned about the security implications of their work, are inclined to say "if you don’t like it, use another Linux distribution"."

One must hope that people will not ask from other distributions to provide them with such a feature..........

Pardus is otherwise very promising but because of the UNIX security perverted, it can’t be recommended.

Pardus 2007.2 is very slick and easy to use, it is on a par with
pc linux and I hope it continues to be so, I shall be using it more
and maybe replace Ubuntu with Pardus once I have explored it
more.

Hi,

Firstly thanks for the review, I am the head of Pardus security team and let me tell you sometimes we fix security bugs months before other distributions do. This security FUD bores me to hell. Asking passwords again and again won’t make anything secure.

Security advisories might be lacking but security updates are faster than light that I can assure you.

Back to the review, I now added a package-manager link to main menu, above of Tasma icon so your concern about making it hard to find should be solved for 2007.2 release.

I remember now the other reason. The LiveCD is codenamed "Calisan" and, sharing many letters with "Caracal," I thought that your wallpaper was the LiveCD default. I expected to see "Kurulan" on the desktop instead.

The pisi package manager icon can be placed in the group of icons
with time and volume control by running the Kaptan utility.
The last screen offers to put the pisi icon there.
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Open pisi, settings, configure package manager.
’add new repository’.
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I’ve been using the 2007.2 first beta (the second beta is out as of this post) for two weeks and have found it to be a lovely distro that I hope to use for a long time. It is better at grabbing and holding wireless connections that any distro I’ve used, and hardware support is excellent all around. Once I enabled the single community repository, I was able to grab all my needs, from Bluefish to Agave, with ease. PiSi is a solid package manager. Nothing spectacular, but it gets the job done, and it’s fairly attractive. The system is extremely stable, especially for a beta. In two weeks, I’ve only run into two problems: The Bluefish package missed the "libgnomeui" dependency which I then installed, and once my computer wouldn’t wake from suspend.

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I’ve also found support to be very good in the English Pardus World Forum, although slow. It seems that this distro doesn’t give many people problems, because the helpers are there, just not many users with questions!