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Can handle all my hardware, as net, sound and video adapter, without the reason to read instructions how to get it to work. Other distros, i tryed no sound, no windowmanager, easy to misconfigure ( Suse, Debian, Ubuntu, Red Hat, Sabayon, Gentoo, DSL,.....................) I am shure, in a half year these distros will work with newer hardware, but meantime..............? And why, I do not need 15 audio -players, 10 video-players and all the other unnessesary stuff, which when i remove it mostly has the effect, something other will not work anymore.
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> and some other projects as "official" operating system insted of windos in Turkey.
You can’t really have it both ways, can you though? If your principal client’s the government, then the main requirement will be for stability & reliability as opposed to bleeding-edge functionality, and the only updates over the course of the release cycle will be for security releases and critical bugfixes (much like as in Debian, Ubuntu and Red Hat Enterprise Linux).
> Pardus is some kind of distrubution that is financed by goverment with low support.
> I suppose the developper team is not crowded though.
If Pardus is as undermanned and underfunded as you’re suggesting, then why do they compound their burden by constantly having to test rolling feature updates?
If you compare Pardus with greater distrubutions like Debian it will be unjust.
And also establishing new distro and maintaining it some what different. Pardus has some new improvements compared to other distros.
Think of Debian. it is said to be most stable and relible distro. But after a stable release, you cannot see much improvments. You have to wait over a year to see or use testing or unstable versions of distro.
I also would like to mention that Padus is intended to be used in E-goverment and some other projects as "official" operating system insted of windos in Turkey.
Only if you’re using Pardus, or carelessly running another distribution as Root.
> No different from Microsoft systems really. (All the more reason to keep on good terms with thoise who may have access to your computer.)
So now Windows 95 stands as the benchmark for Linux security! With viral marketeers like you, Pardus doesn’t need enemies!
> Unix/Linux programmers/administrators seem to be the last segment of society to still cling on to coldwar mentality.
Not wanting script kiddies to trash my machine because of vulnerabilities Pardus can’t be bothered to patch doesn’t make me Richard Perle.
> But if your one of the 99.9% of us less paranoid people who use Pardus at home or at work I think you’ll find it more than adequate.
Sorry to inform/disillusion you (and while I’m at it, maybe I should send you a Bruce Schneier reading list) but the only rational approach to security is to close up vulnerabilities as and when they occur. As their mythical ’average user’, Pardus doesn’t think that you deserve this.
But if your one of the 99.9% of us less paranoid people who use Pardus at home or at work I think you’ll find it more than adequate.
Unix/Linux programmers/administrators seem to be the last segment of society to still cling on to coldwar mentality.
Yes, your teenager who’s Linux savey could mess your system up when you’re not watching. No different from Microsoft systems really. (All the more reason to keep on good terms with thoise who may have access to your computer.)
I’ve installed and used countless Linux distros over the years. For the average computer user Pardus is one of, if not the best, Linux distro currently available.
There is a point to be careful with before using this monster, it unfortunately doesn’t work with SATA drives yet..
... for anyone who wants to find themselves hosting Marc Dutroux’s home videos quicker than they can say "Gary Glitter".
Having Installed over 400 distro versions I have found Pardus an excellent choice for anybody wanting to leave the other well known operating system. This version of Linux has much promise.
In Pardus, all but the most severe vulnerabilities are patched only as and when feature updates are also made available, i.e. once a fortnight (which, for example, is the time it took for the Firefox 2.0.0.3 patch to filter into the Pardus repositories).
This is a matter of explicit policy on Pardus’s part. In the words of a senior developer: "Instantly merges only allowed for if the problem is a security one, and _if and only if_ its severity is high. This is a clear policy."
*Far* more seriously, Pardus dispenses with conventional UNIX security culture for the sake of attracting new users. I quote: "a) current Linux security model is complex, b) complexity brings desktop abandoning."
What this means is that the first user to set up a (non-root) account in Pardus is able to deploy Pardus’s powerful config and package management tools *without first having to log in as root*.
In addition, Pardus does not provide an easy way for its newbie constituency to ensure that these tools are only made available when logged in as root.
Even apart from the question of remote exploits, there’s the matter of what can happen to a PC’s system files when it’s left briefly unattended -- after all, how can Pardus ensure that the person sitting in front of your computer at any given moment *is* this mythical "trusted user"?
Essentially, Pardus thinks that ordinary users are less deserving of a secure operating system than people administering servers. I quote: "We only provide that simple policy which is enough (i think) for desktop usage but of course you may want some more."
The developers, when questioned about the security implications of their work, are inclined to say "if you don’t like it, use another Linux distribution". Obvious cynicism aside, never a truer word was spoken!
www.pardus-linux.nl
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