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I am a bloody, ignorant user with no knowledge of any os code. I use MS Windows XP
because I need it for some crucial applications.
For safety reasons I prefer a live linux cd for surfing the internet. I have tried suse,
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Hello again!
RE my «I have a suggestion» comment of 29. May 2007 — I didn’t think to include a link to a screen-shot where you can see a typical example in Synaptic for a description of software. Notice that the dark-blue cursor is on the software item whose description you’ll see down below.
Here’s the link —
http://www.esnips.com/doc/71f4a80f-28c6-4e6f-8436-4c3de52b5f29/Synaptic_Shot2
mit herzlichem Gruß allen Linux-Freunden,
Roger ( http[colon]//www[dot]zumGlockenturm[dot]org )
«It’s a good release but I don’t see it offering anything that PCLOS
doesn’t besides a lot more software that managed to confuse me.»
I have a suggestion:
See if the software which you may not be familiar with is already
included in the PCLoS repository. The easy way, of course, is to fire up
the Synaptic package manager, which is the standard tool for adding to
PCLos (or for deleting unwanted packages=programs). Read the
descriptions that Synaptic offers.
Synaptic will provide a thumbnail description for packages you wish to
learn more about. Yes, of course: some of the program NAMES don’t
give you a clue about what they’re designed for. But browse around with
Synaptic.
You may not even have to check the PCLoS repository. — Instead fire up
Synaptic and just look at what is already installed in SAM. I suspect that
SAM has to be installed to hard disk for a person to be able to do this
looking-around.
And there you have an easy way to remedy your confusion about
mysterious software!
I’d like to expand a bit on what (I strongly feel) is the very most important
thing about PCLoS and SAM — namely, the PCLos repositories. PCLoS
repositories are called «stable.» Which means that— as long as you are
using the correct repository (software pool) to match the version number
of the PCLoS or SAM you are running — then any and all software you
download and install will slide right in nicely with your existing PCLoS (or
SAM) installation. The Synaptic tool is a front-end for the APT (apt-get)
package-management system; but even the best package-management
system will not be able to compensate for software repositories which
are not put together properly. SAM has for many months now referenced
PCLoS not only for the basic operating system of SAM but also for its
software repositories. As much as anything else, the PCLoS repositories
may well explain its popularity: because they make everything work well.
SAM offers a pre-configured XFCe desktop GUI in place of the resource-
hungry KDE. On high-end machines nobody WILL see the difference —
unless, that is, a person is also running a number of tasks in one or
more terminal windows in genuine Unix fashion. These additional tasks
demand additional resources, so even a high-end machine which is
heavily multitasking can behave like a low-end machine sometimes.
XFCe saves on resources, yet it is a true Desktop Environment. For whiz-
bang and (for me) silly and «convenient» features, KDE and Gnome
reign supreme. For my part, I just don’t get it: if that’s what a person really
wants, get a Mac (or a good used one) running OSX, which is BSD-Unix
with a pretty face. — But reasonable people can disagree on this point. XFCe is a pretty darn good middle-path to take for Linux.
Where SAM is concerned, let’s not forget that mostly it’s a one-man
operation by Nico. He’s done a great job. The relations between SAM
and PCLoS are friendly and cordial. If there is this or that in SAM which
doesn’t quite meet expectations, SAM’s base (PCLoS) and its excellent
repositories make up for it. Tweaks to the GUI (to XFCe) are i.e. cosmetic
and do-able. What is under the hood of SAM is solid from start to finish:
what counts most of all!
In a similar vein, what is important about Ubuntu is (I believe) mainly its
repositories. Mepis Linux uses them. You can hardly go wrong with any
distro which uses APT and a good front end (optionally) to APT such as
Synaptic or KPackage: uses APT i.e. with repositories that are properly
put together. On the question of who has truly good repositories, people
have different opinions. I do not seek to start but only to report on existing
controversy. FluxBuntu leverages e.g. the Ubuntu repositories and that
seems to be the only «Ubuntu» thing about it. Except for my «lieblings-
distro» Grml, FluxBuntu is most up my own alley because it’s even
leaner — but doesn’t strictly speaking have a desktop environment but
rather a window manager. — That’s good for me, but not of course for
everybody. Not everybody wants to get more and more under the hood.
Even Grml (no KDE, Gnome OR XFCe!) is said to work well with the
Ubuntu repositories within reason. For non-Debian Linux: Sam | PCLoS.
Thanks for the review of SAM!
Sincerely,
Roger (http[colon]//www[dot]zumGlockenturm[dot]org)
at first and its quite nice but has some issues. probably because ,as i understood, not many are working on it. You can notice just by looking at its screenshot that the desktop icons are not lined up properly and also in xfce you cannot customize and arrange them yet. there are other small yet annoying gliches.
On the positive hand it has wine installed by default and opera web browser in addition to firefox.
Now if only it could recognize and run my wifi right off the bat... :-)
The only problem I’ve found with SAM 2007 final is that it doesn’t shut down properly as it freezes on the last screen. This has happened with both my old and new laptops.
I think SAM is way up there with the top distros. I raise my hat to Nico for such a great, fun distro.
Cheers.
PCLinuxOS, why don’t you just provide to this latter distro with a good XFCE package?
Or is there some other differences in the underling scripts?
(BTW, the same refrain for Mint and co...)
SAM is one of the best XFCE based distros, with Zenwalk and Dreamlinux... and Xubuntu of course.
Nico, keep on the fantastic work.
Thanks.
it’s a very good distro, nice-looking, a good support, etc.
All of its limitation is because the use of XFCE, but everything in this world has its
own pluses and minuses, right ?
I love it from the start, ....and if the XFCE is as complete as KDE, I won’t be looking
anywhere else for my OS of choice.......... I like the simplicity of any OS , and SAM
gives me the simplicity and the functionality at the mix ........
Thanks for reading the site. I like SAM, it’s a nice release and I feel bad that I totally overlooked the notion of using it on a lower-end machine - such is the main intention of using XCFE?
I’ve added it to my list of "distros to watch" so any future releases will be covered. It’s a nice release just not what I thought it was going to be considering it’s heritage.
Let me add some comments:
Under the line you ask "Why SAM?" - I will tell you why:
The reason for me to do SAM is not to be a rival for PCLOS, but to provide a linux system for low-end computers, easy enough to handle for linux beginners. You can run SAM on a 500mhz machine with 128mb or 192mb RAM and have a good choice of software along with a good speed combined with a nice configured XFce desktop environment.
The SAM live cd tells the user (even at the first screen you ever see after putting the cd into the drive) where it´s coming from: PCLinuxOS. So are my texts written at the SAM website or the release announcements.
Also Texstar and his developers from PCLinuxOS let me take part at the development process - there is even a sub-forum for SAM Linux at the PCLinuxOS forums.
So please don´t think about "rivalry" or such things. Tex does his PCLOS, I do my SAM - and then there are enough connections where we work together.
But let him speak by himself:
http://www.pclinuxos.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=99999999&topic=15323.msg130087#msg130087
Thanks and have fun,
Nico
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