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Since I’ve been a PCLinuxOS user for several months now (not using the Windows partition at all), with the new Ubuntu release (i.e. 7.10) I’m attempting to multiboot windowsXP + Ubuntu + PCLinuxOS. Hope everything goes smoothly.

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I have been playing around with dual boot MS and Linux for about 10 years now and it has to be said that generally the problems have been few and far between. As others have said, I have had problems with resizing utilities, but gave up on that route a while back. Generally I tend to leave a block of unpartitioned space when installing windows, and linux has always found this and offered to install into it.
Newer distros have come on in leaps and bounds, so that it is now perfectly possible for novice users to install an os. Mandrake 10.2 is as esy to install as XP, many of my students have loaded this distro as their only os, so we’re getting there.
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I never touch the partitions or other contents on the HD of my working system - I know how to use my screwdriver and connect an empty HD when setting up a new system.
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I plan the partitioning from scratch, then create all partitions initially empty using available partitioning functions on install floppies or CD’s

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I have been dual-booting machines for about 5 years now, and rarely had aproblem. I am currently running Ubuntu Dapper & Vista-RC1 on my main machine, in the past it’s been XP & Beos, XP & SuSE....
The following is my advise for guaranteeing a happy dual-boot experience.

Personally, I would NOT trust any free partitioning software for resizing NTFS Windows partitions, as ive destroyed healthy NTFS partitions using various free tools in the past: its rather hit-and-miss.

Instead I ALWAYS use PartitionMagic for Windows, which has NEVER failed for me.

a) Buy PartitionMagic: yes its commercial, but its not that expensive, esp. if you value your sanity & data ;), and install it under Windows.

b) Shrink the NTFS partition(s), leave the remaining space "empty/unallocated", and reboot Windows to make sure nothing has gone wrong.

c) Boot using your linux cd, and follow the install process till it comes to partitioning. Create your linux partitions and swap space on the "free" space, and format them (my personal preference is ext3).

d) When you reboot, both Windows and linux should be available from the Grub (or Lilo) boot menu.

e) If you want to access the Grub configuration (on most distros), open the file /boot/grub/menu.lst.
If you wish to edit the file, the changes made will be automatically applied upon next boot.

Incidentally, it seems to me that the Vista boot process isnt vastly different to XP’s, so Grub can detect and boot it just fine (this was a huge relief when i installed it recently & then had to re-install Grub;)

I side-stepped the problem of re-partitioning when first
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why should linux even be considerate of that stinkin’ windows operating? why does linux play second fiddle and compare itself to garbage microsoft. it seems everytime i read about linux there’s always a reference to god almighty microsoft. linux should come right out and say remove windows from your computer then you can install a fine linux distro. there’s too much emphasis on making linux friendly to windows computers. screw the kool-aid drinkers. i just wiped microsoft off of 2 machines and i didn’t create a backup before i did it. i don’t have restore disks either.

I am not afraid of dual booting, as I know not to click "Install" and then "YES I WANT TO ERASE MY WHOLE DRIVE" and I know that I will be asked this before a install. But I also know how exactly computers work, how a boot process works, like booting a rescue system (or DBAN with the autonuke option) over the network (PXE) and similar stuff. People having no clue about computers will be afraid of even putting a linux CD into the drive.
Additionally I want to note that you can forget the survey. You will attract many computer literate people and very few clueless ones, especially now it is on digg, and most computer literate people wont be scared by loading an app into ram keeping their harddrive untouched until mounted.

Ok, I thought I would inject some reality here. Like most of the others, I have had no problems. Why? Because I am a highly skilled user. I know that I should image a hard drive before I start in case something goes horribly wrong. I do, and most who have posted here do also. We understand how to follow the instructions, where to find the information, and we probably all have a linux expert in our contact list to call for those .001% of problems we cant fix. But most people arent like us, they don’t clearly see a path to fix any problem that pops up. They see a winding maze of disappointment and frustration and they choose the ’easy’ route. While we might want to show our distain and profess our superior intellect, it is counter productive. Not being one to point out problems without solutions, I have a suggestion. The community needs to build a bulletproof, one button, "go back" installer option that will physically image the entire hard disk, verify it, and save it off to an external device before install. We shouldn’t even give them the option to skip it. Now I know, this is an act of charity for the ’novice’ user since WE don’t need it. But lets form a consensus here my friends, the n00bs need it. And for the rest of us, it might actually save us from our own arrogance during our next laptop install...:)
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I gave up on dual booting. I had Windows and Mandrake installed for about six months before I realised that I rarely booted one of the two. Since then every box that has come through my hands has been Linux only. Life has been less stressful since then.

I’ve been re-partitioning drives since about 2000 with many differenece hard drives on many different computers and never had a problem on any of them. When I was first ’playing’ with linux I had at least 4 different distros and windows all on the same computer with space for other ones that I wanted to try out. I think the many problem is that people don’t always read what they’re being told and when they do they don’t fully understand it and so they just accept the defaults, which can’t always (ever?) be right.

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http://linux.coconia.net/
http://m.domaindlx.com/LinuxHelp/ (mirror)

There are also HOWTOs on:

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2) 3D acceleration for ATI cards (simple procedure, works for SuSE, Mandriva and Debian).
3) accessing and writing to Windows XP (formatted with the NTFS) from Linux.
4) some discussion on the GPL and non-free third party kernel modules.
5) remix those 14 Debian installation CDs as 2 DVDs.
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I have dual boot on 2 boxes right now (Fedora Core 5 and WinXP). I had a lot more, but switched mostly to linux alone. Problems I encountered while migrating Windows to Dualboot were: Destroying partitions of the Windows installation, unbootable Windows, Windows getting kicked out of the domain.
Here at the University of Salzburg we have a whole Department (Microbilogy) who use Dualboot WinXP and RedHat EL on all boxes. They seem to have no problem (save loss of domain connectivity on first boot)

Oh Steve, here are a few of the steps involved: 1. Use a partitioning tool to make a partition to put Linux on.
2. Download an iso (CD image) from a linux distribution site.
3. Burn that iso to CD (it must be a live CD iso - some linux distribution that has a live CD, like Knoppix or some others).
4. Reboot your computer with the iso in the CDROM drive, it’ll start up and you’ll be in Linux.
5. Run the install script and choose to install Linux on the newly created partition.
In the end, you’ll have an option at your computer’s startup to start in Windows or Linux.

i have dual boot before with both fedora core, xandros, freebsd etc... i would say that dual booting is not as hard as one would think..

dual booting is a bit old these days ..if your computer is a bit modern( > 1.0 Ghz processor and >=512 MB ram) ..the better alternative is to install the other os in a virtual machine, vmware player is free and is available for both windows and linux( i believe it will available soon on a mac or they could use parallel) ..vmware website have a list of prebuiled virtual machines is you like ..

i just loaded solaris 10 the other day on my virtual machine and used it for a while, just to check it out

never have serious problems to dual boot my boxes with Linux and Windows. But Windows is terrible in some cases to handle the boot sectors. The sequence to install OSes is important. Do not install Windows as the last OS. It may change the boot sector unexpectedly.

I am a newbie at this. Every one talks geek. Is there anyone who would take the time to explain how to install linux?

the only problems I’ve had with dula booting is trying to figure out some of the partitons that Dell, HP etc. use.

Never been an issue. I’ve dual booted dozens of machines and never had a problem. Sometimes I install a second drive for Linux but mostly I just partition the drive.

I’ve never had a problem multibooting. But I always do my partitioning first using the GParted LiveCD. Make sure to turn off the virtual memory and hibernate function in XP, then defrag the drive. Then do the XP resize from GParted Live, reboot into XP and turn back on the virtual memory (and hibernate if you want that function). Then reboot with your distro of choice install CD. Works every time!

I have dual booted since SuSe 6, including several other distros and have been with Mandrake-driva since 7.0 mostly to ’standardize’ my own systems - and have never experienced a problem in many installs on many desktops and laptops.
I will admit to having been confused by the choices a few times, but a little thought always prevails successfully.
As far as the ’new’ Live CDs go - just haven’t tried them (not to be sarcastic, but I USE my Linux and have little inclination to always try the latest thing).
One more note - my last couple of systems (HP desk/Toshiba lap) came with XP - obviously - and I set them both dual boot with small M$ partitions and Mdk10 on the desk - Mandriva2006 on the lap - But I have not booted into XP on either since the install in January! I had not really thought about it until now, but I guess I have reached the point that M$ really is useless to me!
Maybe my next install will NOT be dual boot, come to think of it!

Oh, come on, this is not even woth to be talking about guys. Dual booting is a pease of cake.

Learning how to install multiple OSes on my desktop has been a great learning experience. You simply need to take the right precautions before jumping in: backup your data, test the backups, and make sure you have all your installation media. The trickiest part for me has been conflicting bootloaders (install Windows first!), but at the most I’ve been able to install 6 functional OSes on one machine (2 Windows, 2 BSDs, and 2 Linux flavors.) Tip for those who despise GRUB and LILO -- GAG is a _very_ easily configurable bootloader that can boot from master and slave drives. Planning ahead for a multiboot system --just leave some raw space for future partitions/slices-- will save the hassle of after-the-fact partition managing. Note to Xyphus -- I’ve been able to run XP off a slave drive’s 2nd partition using GAG.

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First, you try Linux on an other computer. But this requires of course some extra hardware, may be two keyboard, mouse, and screen.

Then, you try it on your computer, with some Dual Boot. And you are not sure if it will detect every piece of your ’new’ hardware.

Now it may vary depending on your habits, but you will probably want to delete one of the OS.

And in my opinion there are no user friendly tool delete one OS on your computer and leave the other. That is shocking at least.

In my experience, I was using Linux only, even if some partition was left with FAT32. which was loaded with data only.

And I tried to re-install Windows on it, for some reason. It was temporary. And guess what fucked up ? The Windows 2000 install crashed when I was trying to delete one partition. After a reboot, I ended with 100 paritions of 13 Go each, on a 13 Go hard drive.

That is the story that made me sick of Windows definitely.

But I keep trying it to remember me that it is so fucked up.

I tried Vista some times ago and I must say their Dual Boot is crazydumbest. You must boot Vista to edit the boot menu. Because the only tool to edit it is only available for Vista. So if you delete Vista, you can’t do a shit with their dual boot.

Anyway, Dual boot should be reapparing when everyone is gonna try that Vista on their computer, but it definitely not a long term solution in any case, Linux or not.

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I’m not scared to multi-boot.

I have just started into the realm of GNU/Linux in the last 6 months or so. I have created multi-boot before that using may combinations of 98 2000 NT and XP. I am currently running a triple-boot of Ubuntu/Dapper, XP Pro, and Vista RC1.

The first time I installed Ubuntu I had some networking issues, but after a little research everything works fine.

As far as partitioning software goes, I have never used a commercial app. such as Partition Magic. I have used the GParted Live CD a few times with fantastic results. Able to do everything that I wanted to do with no problems.

I’ve done dual-boot systems many, many times and never had problems. That thing that I always do that makes me different from most users is that I always partition the disk beforehand, then do a fresh Windows install, then install Linux. If you’re afraid of resizing existing partitions, it may also be an option to install a new hard drive and do the Linux install there.

Well, Looking at the poll now, It seems like the ones who were afraid knew of the poll. It isnt’t that scarry. My Laptop is a Quad-Boot. Fedora Core 5, Windows XP, Windows 2003 Server, and MacOSX

I was nervous the first time I installed Mandrake 9.0 alongside XP because I’d never done it before and things are rarely as simple as they sound, but I had backups, and it worked just fine. I used Partition Magic the first couple of times, but QTParted ever since. I’ve got XP/Dapper right now, but I’ve dual or even triple booted XP with Mandrake/Mandriva, SUSE, Simply Mepis, Ubuntus Warty and Breezy and even Debian (network install of Sarge was so geeky--heh). Messing with partitions doesn’t make me at all nervous anymore, but I still make good backups, just in case. The one time you don’t make backups is the one time you’ll need them. ;)

I’ve installed ubuntu/kubuntu several times as a dual boot and never had an issue. My secret is to use a different partitioner than the one included with ubuntu install. I use gParted live CD to resize my Windows partition then tell the ubuntu installer to use the largest block of free space and things run smooth from there.
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php

I have never had a problem dual booting Ubuntu and XP Pro and have done the installation a number of times.

Hi voted "Scared" its not really true in that I’m not scared of dual booting but I am of trying to install it on the HD in the first place.

The problem being I have a RAID 0 system. I already partionioned it with PM ready to receive Ubuntu ( with v3 of the file system -can’t remember its writing - ) But the Live CD installation does not recognise that partition.

I then downloaded Mandriva distro that one recognises it, but looking at its interface on the Live CD ( don’t understand Konkeror I guess) I am afraid to commit to its installation...Not knowing if doing so I will be able to change it for Ubuntu once done.

You hit the nail on the head there, rysiek... The installers themselves are fine its the damned partitioning-from-hell procedure that you’re never sure you’re going to survive.

For anyone that hasn’t done one of these before: its like taking a hypodermic needle, finding a drug addict, sticking it in their arm and then sticking it in yours.