Posted on Saturday 28th of October 2006 at 06:06 in Software

Vote: What will you do when Vista lands?

Right it's time for another vote! Vista is around the corner and we're all nervously eying it's copy protection, Media Player 11's Digital Rights Management and the notion that you're limited to X* formats until you need to purchase (* this has been reported as both 1 and 10, so I'm unsure what the true number actually is).

So, what will the release of Vista do to you?
Microsoft are being sneaky and stealthily putting their prices up by having the "Basic" package so basic that no one would buy it out of choice, forcing users onto more pricy packages "out of their own choice", which just isn't good for those of us who don't want to pay hundreds of dollars for an operating system. Don't even think about going illegally just yet either, MS are staying on top of that too - if you have an unregistered version it will apparently terminate your session after 30/60 minutes and remove useful items such as the start-menu until you register... While I'm sure the hackers/crackers will be on top of this situation, I feel MS are going to try to keep up this time around and therefore I advise people to avoid pioneering a pirated copy of Vista until it's "safe" (not that I condone such behaviour in the first place).

get your vote on As far as I'm concerned there isn't any need to upgrade to Vista yet beyond being bored with XP. DirectX10 isn't out yet and nor are the corresponding games and (having played with RC1 for a while) it offers very little new that hasn't been provided for XP users by third parties. Although I'm sure that Microsoft will claim Vista's desktop search is entirely different to Google Desktop Search. Vista does have excellent indexing and searching utilities and I'm sure it's disk management is a vast improvement too, but it just feels like XP has been attacked with an alpha-transparencies rifle and between the user and the task they're trying to accomplish sits several parental features to hold your hand and question your every action. I don't like my Operating Systems to hold my hand unless I've asked for it.

Vista will no doubt have George Orwell irritated that 1984 was only 23 years wrong

So, Vista is going to cost us more and undoubtedly Microsoft will sneak some nasty Genuine-Advantage-Tool-Alike in there to phone home every few seconds and record exactly what you were doing just so someone somewhere can laugh at your attempts to write an email in outlook. Personally the entire notion of Vista seems too 1984 for my liking - if I pay for something I want it to keep my machine safe and little else, I care very little for this nanny state that is being implemented. So what am I going to do?

I am going to stay on XP for as long as I can and keep Ubuntu in the picture as usual so that I can closely monitor the decline of one and the rise of the other - if such a point approaches that I could move onto Ubuntu (or another distro) with little impact on my life, then I would. For now though, I do have a heavy dependence on my Windows partition but I have very little interest in upgrading to Vista (although I'm sure I'll be singing a very different tune in 12 months because that's the way the world works).

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some good points being raised, I entirely support the "suck it and see" policy with dual booting.

Linux does have a bit of an issue with gaming as far as I’ve seen, but tbh I never find time for it anyway! I’m sure I could play Football Manager inside Wine
@Oli
well, as I have said, I know nothing about VS.net, but when it comes to games - I had a similar attitude 4+ years ago, when I decided "just to give Linux a try". during the next 6 months I entirely moved to Linux. winXP still sits on my disk, dual-booted if I feel an urge to play some newer a game, but I haven’t booted it for a long time anyway. free games (like Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, Tibia or Savage), that are available for Linux, satisfy my gaming needs.

it’s always the "just try it, you won’t loose anything if you do" thing. I have tried. I didn’t loose a thing - on the contrary, I got a working operationg system that is virous-free (without running a bloated AV software), spamware-free (alike) and I can enjoy 3d effects (wobbly windows, transparency, desktop cube etc etc) while using a *fraction* of what Vista uses to render it (right now I have full 3d-accelerated desktop with firefox - 10 tabs - two IM apps, a full-blown PIM - kontact - an IRC klient and a multimedia app - amarok - running on my AthlonXP 2400+ using... 8% of the CPU and 450-500MB RAM; just try it on vista).

not to mention, that if it comes to quality-to-price ratio, Linux is, well, infinitely better, no question about it!

it’s not that one has to move entirely to Linux if one wants to try it. "use dual-boot, luke!". I do. on 4 machines now, too.

cheers
rysiek

p.s.
and yes, I am a kind of Linux-ewangelist. but Linux is - simply and plainly - worth it.
@rysiek

Glad you’re staying in this thread, I cannot type for too long as the woman is asleep behind me and I’ve been accused of shashing keyboards with my keystrokes...

Eclipse might get somewhere in the next 5-10 years but it has nothing on VS. That’s the real difference between open source and closed. Closed can afford to spend the extra on more developers to make sure those harder features make the major builds. I do use it for Java but its a serious step back from the prowess of VS.net 2005.

I agree. Eclipse does have a monkey-load of options but I’m not after 5001 languages. All I want is VB.net and C# for asp.net and a few desktop apps.

Also I like playing new (read: latest) games on my windows computer. I’m expecting issues with cedega for the very latest stuff.

Overall my biggest holdups from moving to linux are:
- i’m not going to be able to do some things
- Its going to be harder to do other things

And theonly positive is I’m going to be able to do some things (read: crontab) easier. It’s still a really close gap between "got for it" and "naaah, you might as well stick with XP". Sad, I know.
@Oli:
gaming - I use wine and cedega, old games through DOSemu and QEMU (I’ve got a whole WinXP on QEMU - prefer it to VMWare for it being open-source);

don’t know VS.net, but have you tried Eclipse? I’ve heard it’s quite good, while being OpenSource, so anyone can write a plugin - an you know what that means.
that means - give it a wee bit of time and there is no way a closed-source, commercial solution can have more options and possibilities.

cheers
rysiek
@rysiek

But it’s not the same. Plus I’d never give up VS.net... That’s my problem... I use a windows only "golden application" and there’s nothing that comes close to touching it... (IMHO, naturally)

Hopefully VMwaring it will perform well enough to use on a long term basis... Maybe even gaming through VMWare might work =x
I’ll just stay on my Linux. and my sisters stay too.

@Oli:
on Linux you can use Mono, it’s a free/libre/open source implementation of .Net. And there are already lots of apps written in it (take Beagle for one)

cheers
rysiek
Yeah I wont be migrating to Vista (full time) until DX10 is amazingly needed or the .net framework requires it.

I’m *seriously* considering my move to linux and VMWaring XP for .net development... Even had a dream about it.

By the way, thanks for the plug. I’ll msn you when I’m back from soton.

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