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Posted on Saturday 12th of May 2007 at 10:05 in Linux

Review: Pardus Linux 2007.1

I recently asked my readers to suggest new distros for review and one of the top suggestions was Pardus - a distro that you've probably never heard of.

Pardus is a relatively unknown release funded and developed by the Scientific and Technological Research Council of Turkey. It has a range of unique features and clearly has converted some fans on basis I'm sitting here playing with it because readers recommended it. So let's see what this KDE release can do.

Installation
Earlier today I played about with DreamLinux and instantly gave it an "F" because it relied on the user setting up the partitions manually - something "usable" distros can't be doing. I'm happy to say this is something that Pardus does well - a nice graphical installer that may look like a Java applet of yester-year but handles the entire process in an intuitive manner.

pardus installer

The installer wasn't particularly swift but it was a nice process. It's worth noting that Pardus doesn't offer a LiveCD environment so there'll be no testing the system before installing. Another thing worth noting is that a couple of the images you're presented with are slightly odd... Indicative of what is to come? Let's put it through it's paces.

pardus installer

Aesthetics
While not the most attractive of all distros I feel this is most likely because it's not got a large team of designers sitting behind it like releases like Ubuntu Studio or Gentoo. It's tidy though and certainly handsome enough to live with and that's what's important. The icon design is one of the standout features - fitting of the largest releases. There's only so much I can say about aesthetics; the rest is best left to a healthy screenshot:

pardus desktop

Networking
While not as obvious as the network detection in Ubuntu it's intuitive enough and around 3 clicks later you have the Internet. It also looks like there's a decent level of Wireless device support too so that's good. Pardus also offers Samba share which works like a dream fortunately. However I did find that it only worked well using "Smb4k" - an application designed for this purpose - the traditional browsing route didn't seem to work properly. However, I was able to grab video files from my pre-existing network without even touching an FTP client - which is good.

As normal I grabbed a video file and threw it onto the desktop ready to be played. As always I place a lot of weight onto the handling of media files because it's fundamental to modern system use. If Linux is going to be taken seriously as a Windows replacement - it needs to handle media files gracefully (in my opinion, obviously).

Playing the video file
As normal a DVD-ripped episode of Family Guy is in question. Things looked promising with Kaffeine explaining that it has codecs and everything all ready for me.

Unfortunately when Family Guy started playing it was clear that the codecs weren't quite up to the job. I decided that now was as good a time as any to grab VLC - the world's greatest open source media player (in my opinion).

pardus familyguy

I found the package manager difficult to find, hidden a layer deep in TASMA - Pardus' very powerful yet simple configuration utility. The best comparison I can give is that it's almost exactly like the one found in PCLinuxOS. I sat hoping that VLC would solve my codec problems because anything more than this would really jeopardise it's out-of-the-box functionality.

While the package manager wasn't easy to find it was easy to use - following the same paths as Synaptic. Opting to install VLC triggered a massive list of pre-requisits. Opting to play the video in VLC resulted in no video... I'm willing to believe that Pardus will handle media files it just needs a little bit of love.

pardus vlc

Applications on offer
While some of the functionality has been a little bit skittish from time to time, there's a lot of good things offered directly post install. All the normal faces are present (GIMP, OpenOffice etc) and there certainly is sufficient to keep any user occupied. Infact if it weren't for Kaffeine not playing the video properly I probably wouldn't have ventured into a package manager for some time. In fact there are at least 2 other media players present besides Kaffeine so Pardus really is aiming for high out-of-the-box functionality.

You literally have 10+ applications on each prong of the menu, offering an impressive diversity of functions for even the most picky of users. I really enjoy out-of-the-box distros because they limit how much "faffing around" you need to do.

Conclusions
Quite a mixed conclusion I'm afraid and it's taken me more than 3 hours to be comfortable with what this release has to offer; some things didn't work correctly and there were some oddities (no UK keyboard option and the occasional error message in Turkish) but it's nothing that a healthy polish wouldn't fix. There's an excellent amount of promise being shown by this release and if they could fix a couple of the preloaded codec issues then it's about there.

Networking was excellent and it managed with Samba shares better than some of the larger releases. The design is tidy, the install obvious and while I couldn't possibly recommend this over a more established distro such as Ubuntu, PCLOS or Mepis I'm definately adding this one to my list of releases to keep an eye on. There's a lot of good in this plucky Turkish release and it has an excellent grounding.

It'll be hard though, Ubuntu is accelerating at astonishing speed but it's smaller releases like this that really amaze me. It handles a lot of things very well and shows promise and I assume this particular one was released in January - so there should be a new and improved version just around the corner. Remember the name "Pardus" because it may be one of the surprise successes of this year.

Please visit the Pardus site and give them your support. It's absolutely worth a look.

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Good Linux
Can handle all my hardware, as net, sound and video adapter, without the reason to read instructions how to get it to work. Other distros, i tryed no sound, no windowmanager, easy to misconfigure ( Suse, Debian, Ubuntu, Red Hat, Sabayon, Gentoo, DSL,.....................) I am shure, in a half year these distros will work with newer hardware, but meantime..............? And why, I do not need 15 audio -players, 10 video-players and all the other unnessesary stuff, which when i remove it mostly has the effect, something other will not work anymore.
Good work! Thanks from Germany
wer

it is maybe the best distro for inexperienced people.
kays_f

> I also would like to mention that Padus is intended to be used in E-goverment
> and some other projects as "official" operating system insted of windos in Turkey.

You can’t really have it both ways, can you though? If your principal client’s the government, then the main requirement will be for stability & reliability as opposed to bleeding-edge functionality, and the only updates over the course of the release cycle will be for security releases and critical bugfixes (much like as in Debian, Ubuntu and Red Hat Enterprise Linux).

> Pardus is some kind of distrubution that is financed by goverment with low support.
> I suppose the developper team is not crowded though.

If Pardus is as undermanned and underfunded as you’re suggesting, then why do they compound their burden by constantly having to test rolling feature updates?
Stepelevich

Pardus is some kind of distrubution that is financed by goverment with low support. I suppose the developper team is not crowded though.
If you compare Pardus with greater distrubutions like Debian it will be unjust.

And also establishing new distro and maintaining it some what different. Pardus has some new improvements compared to other distros.
Think of Debian. it is said to be most stable and relible distro. But after a stable release, you cannot see much improvments. You have to wait over a year to see or use testing or unstable versions of distro.

I also would like to mention that Padus is intended to be used in E-goverment and some other projects as "official" operating system insted of windos in Turkey.
moseymen

> Yes, your teenager who’s Linux savey could mess your system up when you’re not watching.

Only if you’re using Pardus, or carelessly running another distribution as Root.


> No different from Microsoft systems really. (All the more reason to keep on good terms with thoise who may have access to your computer.)

So now Windows 95 stands as the benchmark for Linux security! With viral marketeers like you, Pardus doesn’t need enemies!


> Unix/Linux programmers/administrators seem to be the last segment of society to still cling on to coldwar mentality.

Not wanting script kiddies to trash my machine because of vulnerabilities Pardus can’t be bothered to patch doesn’t make me Richard Perle.


> But if your one of the 99.9% of us less paranoid people who use Pardus at home or at work I think you’ll find it more than adequate.

Sorry to inform/disillusion you (and while I’m at it, maybe I should send you a Bruce Schneier reading list) but the only rational approach to security is to close up vulnerabilities as and when they occur. As their mythical ’average user’, Pardus doesn’t think that you deserve this.
Stepelevich

If you’re a CEO of a multinational corporation, a major figure in underworld crime, or involved in spying on other countries, then Pardus and its security systems probably won’t be to scratch for you.

But if your one of the 99.9% of us less paranoid people who use Pardus at home or at work I think you’ll find it more than adequate.

Unix/Linux programmers/administrators seem to be the last segment of society to still cling on to coldwar mentality.

Yes, your teenager who’s Linux savey could mess your system up when you’re not watching. No different from Microsoft systems really. (All the more reason to keep on good terms with thoise who may have access to your computer.)

I’ve installed and used countless Linux distros over the years. For the average computer user Pardus is one of, if not the best, Linux distro currently available.
glas

This operating system is the best one I have ever used before between the desktop distros. We are looking forward to see it’s Server versions to use with our dedicated servers :)

There is a point to be careful with before using this monster, it unfortunately doesn’t work with SATA drives yet..
Sinan GUNAY

> This version of Linux has much promise

... for anyone who wants to find themselves hosting Marc Dutroux’s home videos quicker than they can say "Gary Glitter".
Stepelevich


Having Installed over 400 distro versions I have found Pardus an excellent choice for anybody wanting to leave the other well known operating system. This version of Linux has much promise.
Dropkey

Along with other reviewers, you haven’t picked up Pardus’s truly bizarre attitude to security.

In Pardus, all but the most severe vulnerabilities are patched only as and when feature updates are also made available, i.e. once a fortnight (which, for example, is the time it took for the Firefox 2.0.0.3 patch to filter into the Pardus repositories).

This is a matter of explicit policy on Pardus’s part. In the words of a senior developer: "Instantly merges only allowed for if the problem is a security one, and _if and only if_ its severity is high. This is a clear policy."

*Far* more seriously, Pardus dispenses with conventional UNIX security culture for the sake of attracting new users. I quote: "a) current Linux security model is complex, b) complexity brings desktop abandoning."

What this means is that the first user to set up a (non-root) account in Pardus is able to deploy Pardus’s powerful config and package management tools *without first having to log in as root*.

In addition, Pardus does not provide an easy way for its newbie constituency to ensure that these tools are only made available when logged in as root.

Even apart from the question of remote exploits, there’s the matter of what can happen to a PC’s system files when it’s left briefly unattended -- after all, how can Pardus ensure that the person sitting in front of your computer at any given moment *is* this mythical "trusted user"?

Essentially, Pardus thinks that ordinary users are less deserving of a secure operating system than people administering servers. I quote: "We only provide that simple policy which is enough (i think) for desktop usage but of course you may want some more."

The developers, when questioned about the security implications of their work, are inclined to say "if you don’t like it, use another Linux distribution". Obvious cynicism aside, never a truer word was spoken!
Stepelevich

AUTHOR COMMENT
"Another one of the this distribution’s innovations is the boot-up system "mudur" which was written from scratch and which is supposed to be faster than some of the more popular distributions."

That’s something I forgot to mention, it boots VERY fast indeed.
Seopher

good
pepe

Another one of the this distribution’s innovations is the boot-up system "mudur" which was written from scratch and which is supposed to be faster than some of the more popular distributions.
turkish_linux_enthusiast

I think Pardus deserves much more attention. It is very good and complete distro but it has a big big problem: there is a LOT of missing apps in the repo and that’s why i could not adopted as my full time desktop OS. Probably it has all the needed stuff out of the box but this is not near true. Come on pardus guys look for more help, there is a lot out there.
MacLone

Good review, thanx!
Willem

Pardus.......the best there is!
Pjotr

In the Netherlands we say: Pardus - intuition for pc’s

www.pardus-linux.nl
sencopardus

AUTHOR COMMENT
Yes sorry, I probably didn’t make myself clear. What I meant was that you couldn’t install from the LiveCD (or vice versa) so if you want to "try it before you buy it" then you need to download two disks.
Seopher

Pardus have a livecd as I had tested it. The livecd is separated from the install version & cannot be installed.
jcsoh

I have never used it but intend to give it a try. They have (always?) had a live version as well, but it cannot be installed, but you can see what you are going to install.
Anthony


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