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Posted on Sunday 8th of April 2007 at 05:58 in Linux

Review of SimplyMepis 6.5

Here we are again, another day and another newly released distro. This time I'm investigating the popular SimplyMepis 6.5 which seems to have a thriving community and a strong base of supporters so it seems only right to give this new release the normal treatment.

So let's discuss what I'm looking for. As always I'm evaluating distros from a new-users' point of view; to attempt to assess how easily an XP user could make it their new home. Why can I do this? Because I too am an XP user natively and have dabbled in many distros, studied user interfaces and HCI (human computer interaction) and therefore feel in a suitable position to make a judgement.

I'm looking for how well SimplyMepis 6.5 handles media playback, connecting to my current network and general editorial use.



Under the premise that the "average" user will play music and videos on their machine, browse the Internet and dabble in Office/Graphical applications I will be putting the distro through these same tasks. I'm deliberately not touching the gaming issue for obvious reasons.

simplymepis 6.5 desktop

#1. Network to my Windows network and grab a video file to play
SimplyMepis is a KDE app so I'm more at home here but it's not a complicated procedure: click applications, what do I want to do? Transfer files across the Internet/network, right, so I hover over "Internet" and then "File Transfer" and there is my normal app - GFTP. Not a difficult process to find an obviously named FTP app (it just so happens I run an FTP server in the house for secure file transfers, but you could just as easily grab the tried and tested NTFS R/W driver from Synaptic). There were no issues what-so-ever connecting to the Internet or accessing my current network and in the screenshot below you'll see the episode of Family Guy transferring across to my desktop:

gftp

#2. Play the episode of Family Guy
Any XP user will know the pain of a fresh install and media-support. You need to install Codecs and remove any clashes and likely spend more than 30mins sorting it all out (unless, like me you've done it so many times you have everything you need backed up on a DVD). Codecs in XP can be an absolute pain in the arse so it's not strange to expect similar levels of discomfort from Linux. Lies, all lies it seems. Once again I double click on the episode and it just plays without issue or delay. Infact see it playing in the screenshot below with this review being written in KWrite behind it... Yet again this new wave of usable Linux continues to impress me through the no-hassle approach.

family guy playing on simplymepis 6.5

#3. Browsing the Internet
Well, clearly not an issue anymore (although this wasn't attempted on a Laptop with a wireless connection as I would hope to - I still haven't placed a sensibly priced notebook to do this on). Distros come with Firefox preinstalled and there's never going to be a problem connecting to a hard-ADSL line so connecting to the Internet isn't the headache it once was (although the situation is probably different when battling with all the different wireless devices of this world.

#4. Editorial, Office and Image editing
The GIMP comes installed as standard (as normal) so your image editing needs are always catered for in this Photoshop substitute. OpenOffice comes as standard too so that's all your office needs sorted as well (and if you've used MS-Office before then you'll be right at home). So out of the box functionality is quite comprehensive as you'd expect but what about installing new software?

#5. Installing new software
It's worth expressing again that "stereotypically" people think it's difficult to install things in Linux - with hours of sitting scratching your head at the command line trying to install packages, finding the pre-requisits and then trying again. Times have changed people, now Synaptic Package Manager makes everything easier than you could have dreamed. You open it up, browse a catalogue of applications and pick the one you want. Mark it for download and it'll download it (along with any pre-requisits), install it and notify you when your new app is ready to be used. Difficult? No. I can't actually remember the last time I needed to use the Terminal (command line) in these popular Linux distros... Which is a good step.

Everything seems to be catered for once again. Out of the box functionality is equivalent to a few hours of tiresome installing in XP



Obviously that's what you want from these new distros - a level of usablity that borders on fool-proof. You don't need to venture into the wide world of the Internet to find applications (well, not in the traditional "browser" sense anyway) and SimplyMepis just handles all the complicated bits for you.

How does it feel to use
Obviously less quantifiable but it feels good - a fairly typical KDE environment. I set up my location to be Cambridge UK and the desktop informed me of the time and the weather (including times for sunrise/sunset, dew point, temperature...) which I do quite like (albeit if it's not functionality beyond that offered by Google Desktop... It doesn't have all the razzle dazzle of PCLinuxOS2007 (Compiz/Beryl enabled from the second you install it) but it can be obtained through Synaptic without issue - that I'm nigh certain of. It just works is all I can say. This is yet another great distro to rightfully stake for a place on the "Usable Linux" battle

Overall
Overall it's great. SimplyMepis takes a lot from the first word of it's name "Simple". As per the other distros I've reviewed recently (Ubuntu Feisty Fawn, PCLOS2007) everything that you would want is just offered directly out of the box - you could seriously be watching DVD-Ripped movies within minutes of installing SimplyMepis (as you could in Ubuntu and PCLOS I might add). Of course the distros ARE different in how they do things but when I'm looking at things at this level of basic functionality. SimplyMepis just works and that's exactly what it should do - offering what you'd expect from a few hours of installing in XP directly out of the box. This is yet another strong contender for the Usable Linux title.

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Beryl is available automatically. You don’t have to get it through Synaptic; you find it in the menu and start it.
Anonymous

Beryl is available automatically. You don’t have to get it through Synaptic; you find it in the menu and start it.

after reading comments on PCLinuxOS at http://pclinuxos2007.blogspot.com i tried it. PCLOS is better than Mepis. Try it and then comment.
sudhansu sekhar

pity about writing to a usb drive that you keep
getting a message
that
’’you do not have permission to access that drive’’
like a lot of other Linux distro’s I have used
no easy answer
lucky i can write to a SD memory card
alan sullivan

Only annoying fact:
winxp partitions, flashmemorysticks and -cards have to be unplugged after starting Mepis and plugged in again before showing an icon.
No tweaking of /etc/fstab seems to work untilnow
Show unmounted drives is checked
dompie

Why are you using GFTP to transfer a file before you play it? SAMBA not working right out of the box? Somebody needs to royally fix SAMBA and make it work by DEFAULT. That means whatever default setting are installed, automatically allows you to browse windows shares, and also automatically shares some public folders of the distro. I am so sick of dicking around with SAMBA in every clean install of every distro just trying to figure out how to get it to just plain WORK.
star

I previously had a 32 bit AMD system, and got very excited when I had both networks running within minutes after the CD install...I’ve tried about every popular distro...SuSE, Fedora (everything from FC 4 up), madriva, ad infinitum, trying to find a distribution that would free me from Redmond, to no avail. I’ve now upgraded to an Athlon 64 3000, 1gig of appropriate ram, and have an atheros-based (Belkin, PCI) wifi card for internet, and the built in ethernet card for a second network, where I can do it. My goal is to build a DAW (digital audio workstation) that will do multitrack audio and midi recording. Will the 64 bit version work for that??? Are there apps such as Ardour, Rosegarden, ALSA, and JACK, available for simplyMEPIS? I’d gladly pay for something that worked after all the frustration I’ve had!

JoefromMO
JoefromMO

After reading all these reviews I burn off : PCLinuxOS Jr. P-93-a , and SimpleMepis 6.5 to try. I’am on cable behind a Netgear router. I couldnt configure PCLinux to connect to the internet. To many pages of choises to click on! After a hr. I gave up, put in the Simple Mepis 6.5 Cd. After about 4-5 mintues every thing look loaded, my interent connection was configured for me! If Linux OS is to grow the First step needs to be made easy , get then connective to the internet!
1st timer

"After choosing and installing Wine from the repository, I could not find it in my Mepis 6.5 installation !?

Is this a Mepis-defect?

Jan"


I think thats because you are using 64-Bit




The information in this article pertains to 64 bit version of SimplyMEPIS

This article will list things that don’t work in SimplyMEPIS 64 bit version.

1. There’s no Java plug-in for Firefox on 64 bit (it works in Konqueror and Opera).
2. Some audio codecs (WMA) cannot be installed.
3. Wine package is not available from the repositories, it can be installed using these instructions and compiled using these instructions
4. To install 32 bit packages use this command (you might need to install 32 bit libraries)

dpkg -i --force-architecture packagename.deb

samuelmp

You made an error concerning ntfs. There is no need to install a ntfs driver. During the testing phase for the development of 6.5, the ntfs-3g driver was added to give full read and write capability right from the live cd.

Concerning wireless, if your wireless card works when you’re using the live cd, your connection settings will be copied to the hard disk if you install Mepis to your hard disk. Same goes for your chosen desktop settings if you choose the official nvidia driver when booting the live cd.
MikePav

Starting KDE 3D is accomplished (on livecd and after hd-installation) at the login-screen. Just select KDE 3D instead of KDE It IS mentioned on the Livecd login-screen.......:-)

Regards, ko
ko

Just to clarify trashcat’s post, Beryl doesn’t /require/ AIGLX. It works just fine with Xgl. Wasn’t an issue on PCLOS2007.
RBurt

Simply MEPIS is just beautiful and user friendly distro. I love it.
Everything works. WOW!!!
New mepis user

Agree with Satcmo: Beryl works fine from LiveCD and "first second" of install on my 2 year old Dell Precision M20 with ATI FireGL3100 (same as X300). As for Xorg vs. fglrx... well fglrx IS a better driver IF you need 3D and OpenGL. Do you really need it (unless you do rendering or play Tux?) or not is another matter. I do not, really. But Warren said support is coming, so... Generally, I’m VERY pleased with MEPIS on my laptop (immediately recognised my intel 2200 wifi card as well, plus bluetooth, my 3 external USB and 1 Firewire drives, USB thumbdrives, Brother 2040 printer, archaic EPSON 1200U scanner etc.) Over the last 2 years I tried 10 or 12 distros and ALWAYS returned to MEPIS. Warren, Thanks!
akag

After choosing and installing Wine from the repository, I could not find it in my Mepis 6.5 installation !?

Is this a Mepis-defect?

Jan
Jan

Satchmo is right, I’m using a Toshiba laptop with ATI card and 3D desktop was working right from the live cd
frnz

Love Mepis, except for its annoying habit of switching assignment of NIC cards each
boot, e.g. eth0, then eth1, then wlan0. Resorted to CLI to fix it. BTW, Mepis on my IBM
Thinkpad detected the ipw2200 card instantly and connected to DSL router/modem
(when it wasn’t trying to connect via [un]wired NIC ;-).



lotusburg

i use simply mepis and the ATI thing comes with a lot of strings attached...
basically beryl works for older cards with the Xorg driver...the Xorg driver doesnt support newer cards and the Fglrx (proprietary) driver don’t support AIGLX which beryl requires
the Fglrx of course is a much better driver in all other categories besides AIGLX (which is on the list of things to be added in the next few months.

You download some XGL pakcages and compiz packages from synaptic and write yourself a little script to start beryl with the Fglrx driver, but its pretty unstable and should only be used for demonstrations.

I don’t like beryl anyway, but for those of you with newer ATi cards who do, support is on the way.
trashcat

What is really nice is built in support for Broadcom Cards, Ver4 chipsets and previous
without NDISWRAPPER. "Simply select to disable NDISWRAPPER in MNETWORK, reboot
and viola, you now have a fully functional laptop.

I am very please to see such a glowing review. I have been using SimplyMepis for
approximately one year now and have not looked back to Windows, and by simply
installing w32codec and libdvdcss2 you have a completely multimedia capable system


John King

You can choose between a plain KDE session and a KDE 3D desktop in the kdm ’session’ menu. Of course, as far as I know, there’s no chance you will have it working on vmware, but when you install the distro it’s right there.
Satchmo


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